An interesting question:
Should a newbie ever pick up a camera and shoot without a goal or vision?
For me, it was 2 years between deciding to be a filmmaker and actually aquiring a camera.
There's nothing wrong with having a f?nny about with your mates, but if you have serious ambitions to be a filmmaker, it's important to have a vision.
It's just that my vision involves a b?llock load of gratuitous violence and potty jokes. For now, anyway.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 10, 2003 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Untamed Aggression ]</font>
ive seen film makers who just make stupid mess around movies... But then ive also seen people who are 15 and never done anything in thier life and they say they have written the first half of a feature film script and wanna know where to get the 100,000 they need to make it! In fact in general i think most film makers rush into things. I must of met countless guys who have written 3 shorts at the most and are starting on a feature length movie script. I just dont understand it...
i guess in that respect you can say that most film makers actually have too much vision and too big a set of goals.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes.Originally posted by Kev Owens:
An interesting question:
Should a newbie ever pick up a camera and shoot without a goal or vision?
I think it's called learning.
When I first picked up a super-8 camera and filmed with no finished goal in mind, I still had set up a goal for the specific shot I was framing.
I was shooting time-lapse and time-exposure footage. I experimented with time-lapse into sunsets, drastic cloud angle time-lapse, streaks of light, long-time exposure with removeable matting, 3 dimensional time-exposure.
After shooting 10 film cartridges over a few months of time, I was able to make my first experimental film.
I'm not exactly sure how one could translate that experience to mini-dv. Although doing sound miking tests does make a lot of sense. And I guess another test would be to practice changing the filter settings and playing with the contrast options and when to do autofocus and autoexposure and when not to do them.
Still, with the film tests I did I was able to make a film that I then blew up to 16mm negative and got a few awards for. So for me, my first filmaking endeavors produced useable footage.
why must we always have this boring debate about film vs video when ever you post?
I just had a meeting with a guy who has $100,000--And looking for a script. So, before I meet him I think "Hey this guy must know what is going on." WRONG!!!
This guy made a bunch of money in the Tech boom and now wants to make a vanity film. He read "Rebel Without A Crew" and now thinks he is Lucas.
His first movie was about a guy getting hit in the balls.
His second movie--Well it was about a guy getting hit in the balls.
Does a Moviemaker in her early days need vision??
It depends on what/how you define vision. If vision is a desire to tell a story then yes--They need vision.
If vision is creating a really dumb story--Then lets hope they decide to take up some other and less public way of expressing their idea.
Good Luck
Was his name Hans Moleman, perchance?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let me refresh your short term memory, as you posted it less than a day ago. [img]eek.gif[/img]Originally posted by belovedmonster:
why must we always have this boring debate about film vs video when ever you post?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you really read my previous post, you would see that I phrased my comment as a question. You could have added to it rather than come off with the "same old same old" type of negative response that doesn't contribute to the discussion at hand.Originally posted by belovedmonster:
A few people will suggest to try using film not video but just ignore them. Film is far too expensive to make mistakes on and the benefits are nominal at this stage in your development as a film maker.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 11, 2003 03:57 AM: Message edited by: Alex ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DaDa is art too, lolOriginally posted by Nigel:
I just had a meeting with a guy who has $100,000--And looking for a script. So, before I meet him I think "Hey this guy must know what is going on." WRONG!!!
This guy made a bunch of money in the Tech boom and now wants to make a vanity film. He read "Rebel Without A Crew" and now thinks he is Lucas.
His first movie was about a guy getting hit in the balls.
His second movie--Well it was about a guy getting hit in the balls.
Does a Moviemaker in her early days need vision??
It depends on what/how you define vision. If vision is a desire to tell a story then yes--They need vision.
If vision is creating a really dumb story--Then lets hope they decide to take up some other and less public way of expressing their idea.
Good Luck
When I first started experimenting with Super8 it was in an attempt to expand the abstraction of my work throughout art college.
I soon found that scraping off bits of film emulsion from the frame was far more fun than doing a painting.
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